..its an IWC, and I dont like IWC. Their attitude towards complaining customers on their company forum is embarrassing. Furthermore, the design of most IWCs is too sterile for me. Like Audi cars. I bet a lot of IWC fans drive Audi cars ??However, the Ingenieur is an exception to this feeling. I saw and handled one today in Gerards shop. An IWC Ingenieur ref. IW2337. A thick and solid watch, and one of the view watches I really like for having an integrated bracelet (as the AP Royal Oak and VC Overseas).Horloge Platform Nederland is selling this one New In Box (NIB) for 4640 Euro. If I had the money, and no problems with IWCs attitude, I would probably left the store today with a new watch.Photo by Horloge Platform Nederland.Some specifications (from their website):IWC Caliber 80110 Vibrations: 28 800/h / 4 Hz Jewels: 28 Power-reserve: 44 h Automatic movement with Pellaton winding system Integrated shock-absorbing system Date display with crown-activated rapid calendar advance Hour and minute hands Central seconds hand with stop function Soft-iron inner case for protection against magnetic fields of up to 80,000 A/m Screw-in back Screw-in crown Luminous elements of hands and indices IWC metal bracelet system with folding clasp Sapphire glass coated on both sides Water-resistant to 120 m